MICHAEL RAPAPORT:
 How did Wild Card come about?

FREDDIE ROACH: I had moved to Los Angeles from Las Vegas and me and Mickey Rourke had a gym together. It went pretty well but I wanted to have my own gym. Having partners is a pain in the ass. I had 10,000 dollars to build a gym and it was rough. I didn’t have enough to even buy a boxing ring so the original ring that is still up I framed out with lumber, like a house. 12 by 2’s, 16’s on center, some cables going up into the walls and so-forth. But we made it work. We spend 10,000 dollars, my entire budget was gone and I think I had 50 bucks left at the end and I bought like 25 flyers. Then people started coming, and the thing is we made rent the first month so it worked out pretty good.